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#26 18-03-2005 14:54:08

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Blue Laser wrote:

I do disagree.  Only oxygenatd blood is red.  Look at your veins, they're blue.  That's blood in those veins, yet it is blue because of a lack of oxygen.  As soon as it hits the air, (you cut yourself), it becomes oxygenated.

Haha gotcha there :D! Wrong!


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re: what is the color of blood?

You're right -- blood is always red - bright red when it is oxygenated and
a darker red when it's lacking oxygen.  Deoxygenated blood just **looks**
blue because you're seeing it through your skin.


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#27 18-03-2005 14:59:03

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Blue Laser wrote:

Stupid Jerk!  You failed to account for my conundrum.

I DONT CARE!! AS LONG AS I'LL BE THE WINNER HERE.. :lol:


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#28 18-03-2005 15:00:49

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Re: Last one to post here wins!

TeraHammer wrote:

Blue Laser wrote:

I do disagree.  Only oxygenatd blood is red.  Look at your veins, they're blue.  That's blood in those veins, yet it is blue because of a lack of oxygen.  As soon as it hits the air, (you cut yourself), it becomes oxygenated.

Haha gotcha there :D! Wrong!


http://madsci.wustl.edu/posts/archives/ … .Gb.r.html

re: what is the color of blood?

You're right -- blood is always red - bright red when it is oxygenated and
a darker red when it's lacking oxygen.  Deoxygenated blood just **looks**
blue because you're seeing it through your skin.

You forgot to keep reading.

HOWEVER, oxygen poor blood is most definitely NOT blue. [i]t is a sort of
purplish/maroon color at best.

So I was wrong about the blue color, but it is still not red. 

You still have to do something with my Carbon-12 statement.


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#29 18-03-2005 15:02:28

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#30 18-03-2005 15:03:28

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LMAO!

I'm working on it =)


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#31 18-03-2005 15:06:47

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Sully:  WTF?


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#32 18-03-2005 15:12:03

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Blue Laser wrote:

Carbon-12 weighs exactly 12.000000000000000000000000000 atomic mass units.

Hmm that is the definition of an atomic mass 1/12th of the weight of a carbon-12. Smart to use the definition

But as you put it right there with that # of zero's, Carbon-12 can still weigh between 11.999999999999999999999999995 and 12.0000000000000000000000000004

Not wise to add so many zero's, you must keep adding to infinity!


My turn again :)

0,9999999999999999999999999999999999999 -> repeating to infinity  = 1

Anybody who disagree plz post underneath! Math is unbeatable!


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#33 18-03-2005 15:14:35

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is that you sully???  :lol:


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#34 18-03-2005 15:18:36

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Sorry TH, the definition of infinity will break you here.

Since infinity is a concept, and not an actual value, 0,9999999999999999999 ad infinitum is simply that number.  1 is a unique number, and cannot therfore be any other number.  Most would argue that it would be feasible to round 0,9999999999999999999999999999999 ad infinitum to 1, but that does not make it 1.

By the way, carbon-12 is defined as exactly 12.0000000000000 ad infinitum.  The whole mass system of the periodic table relies on this. 

So you want to play the math game, eh?

Post under me if you can prove 1 + 1 does not equal 2, using correct mathematical operations.

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#35 18-03-2005 15:20:51

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1 orange + 1 banana does not equal 2 apples =O

Only post under me if you have a valid proof for Fermat's last theorem.

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#36 18-03-2005 15:29:25

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Blue Laser wrote:

Sorry TH, the definition of infinity will break you here.

Since infinity is a concept, and not an actual value, 0,9999999999999999999 ad infinitum is simply that number.  1 is a unique number, and cannot therfore be any other number.  Most would argue that it would be feasible to round 0,9999999999999999999999999999999 ad infinitum to 1, but that does not make it 1.

Ok lets call this 0.9999999.. = x  shall we?

You'll agree that 10*x = 9.999999..
And 10*x - x = 9 Right?

Now solve x :D


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#37 18-03-2005 15:32:16

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no not maths i just broke up from school NOOOOOOOOOOOOO you made think i HATE U


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#38 18-03-2005 15:37:18

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TeraHammer wrote:

Blue Laser wrote:

Sorry TH, the definition of infinity will break you here.

Since infinity is a concept, and not an actual value, 0,9999999999999999999 ad infinitum is simply that number.  1 is a unique number, and cannot therfore be any other number.  Most would argue that it would be feasible to round 0,9999999999999999999999999999999 ad infinitum to 1, but that does not make it 1.

Ok lets call this 0.9999999.. = x  shall we?

You'll agree that 10*x = 9.999999..
And 10*x - x = 9 Right?

Now solve x :D

You can't perform calculations on non-terminating decimals like that.

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#39 18-03-2005 15:38:40

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Why not? The point is that you MUST do it with non-termating! Else 10x-x is not exactly 9!


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#40 18-03-2005 15:39:39

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Well you can't, so find a different method of proof. The one you showed doesn't hold water.

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#41 18-03-2005 15:40:23

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Show me what part of it doesnt hold water!


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#42 18-03-2005 15:40:53

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As for Sully,  go here.

TH,

You're assumption that 10*x - x is incorrect.  There would be a remaining value at the infinity spot.  Think 0,99999. 

Again, trying to use infinity concept as a concrete value, which is pointless. 
0,99999*10=9,9999

9,9999-0,99999 = 8,99991, not 9.

Following your "proof," you would end up with 8,9999...91*x = 9, which would make x = 0,99999..., which is exactly what we started with.

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#43 18-03-2005 15:44:29

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Re: Last one to post here wins!

infinity plus one = infinity right?

Following this analogy, 10 * 0.999999.. = 9,9999..

The whole point is that this number 0,9999... strectches out for so long, that multiplating it with 10, the tail stays infinitely long!


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#44 18-03-2005 15:45:59

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Agreed, but only conceptually.  Mathematically, it would be one unit shorter.  Again, concept versus concrete.  It isn't going to fly.


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#45 18-03-2005 15:47:09

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Yes, my topic is growwing :D

Now I have no clue what to talk about..


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#46 18-03-2005 15:48:04

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Gary, you failed to acknowledge the current conundrums, and are therefore bannished from your own topic.


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#47 18-03-2005 15:50:00

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Re: Last one to post here wins!

Blue Laser wrote:

Agreed, but only conceptually.  Mathematically, it would be one unit shorter.  Again, concept versus concrete.  It isn't going to fly.

No, mathematically everything is right. I defined a number that stretches out to infinity, not ending somewhere at a certain digit you are speaking off.


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#48 18-03-2005 15:52:01

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Re: Last one to post here wins!

pi

Anyone who finds its EXACT value wins this topic.

Edit:

TeraHammer wrote:

infinity plus one = infinity right?

Following this analogy, 10 * 0.999999.. = 9,9999..

The whole point is that this number 0,9999... strectches out for so long, that multiplating it with 10, the tail stays infinitely long!

Thats genuis... I will have to find a way to dis-prove that :P

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#49 18-03-2005 16:00:39

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#50 18-03-2005 16:04:12

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Re: Last one to post here wins!

Wait, now I understand what Blue Laser said. 0.9999999 * 10 would just be 9.9999999

Ive sat here thinking for a while, and cant come up with anything that would truly be infinite... Maybe pi ^ pi, but that would still just be 36.infinite....
I feel a headache coming on

Edit: Good, but still not exact ;)

I have 16 million digits of PI on my computer

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